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special report from abc news. good morning, america. bulletin at this hour. one of two suspects in the boston marathon bombings is dead after a chaotic chase and massive shoot-out just miles from the finish line overnight. it started with the fatal shooting of a police officer at m.i.t. the suspects throwing explosives from a car and the dramatic chase. >> we believe this could be a terrorist. >> suspect number one in the black hat killed. suspect number two in the white hat still at large. >> there is a massive manhunt under way. >> the entire city of boston is on lockdown. subways and buses stopped. he should b arm >> suation serious and scary. t now.rts
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and good morning to all of our viewers on the west and across the country. this is "good morning america" being seen in special abc news conch right now. we're live in boston there's the scene right now, police swarming the streets in a massive man hunt for suspect number two. these are the pictures that came out overnight. tamerlan tsarnaev. number two on the loose, a fugitive right now, believed to be armed and dangerous, described as a terrorist, he was caught on camera last night, he's been on the loose for several hours and all of boston, the entire city of boston surrounding suburbs in lockdown right now. >> that's right. abc news just spoke to those boys' father, he is in shock and implores his son to himself up. he told abc news, he said that
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he think his sons were set up and he said they were very nice kids, never touched explosives and never learned how to handle weapons. he said that his younger son is on the run and in hiding because he's also afraid, words from his father. never saw indication at all atwas capable of violence. we're reminded by brad garrett, our fbi specialing at, often these terrorist lead double lives. we begin with chief investigative brian ross, on the ground, all through the night in watertown, brian, a night of gunfire, bombs, police hunting down the terrorists right now. >> reporter: indeed, george. he was last seen 12 hours ago here in watertown, since then, no sightings of him. so the search is almost urgent.
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authorities are saying that suspect number two dzhokhar tsarnaev is armed and extremely dangerous, may be wearing a suicide vest. >> indications are strong that the current outstanding party may be wearing a suicide vest. again, all units use extreme caution approaching any party that matches the description of the outstanding party. >> reporter: it began last night. with the robbery of a convenience store in cambridge at approximately 7:30. a surveillance camera inside the store, caught the image of the man eye dented mied five hours earlier of suspect number two in the marathon bombings. on the campus of m.i.t. a shoot-out that left an police officer dead. next, the two men carjacked a rcedes and then led the police on a wild, violent chase >> wha reports that have
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explosives at the scene. >> reporter: two men firing weapons and tossing explosives at the cars of pursuing police. the chase ended a with a gun fight in a residential neighborhood in watertown, where one resident took these pictures showing bullet holes. >> several explosive devices were discharged from the car at the police officers. in the exchange of the gunfire, we believe that one of the suspects was struck and ultimately taken into custody. >> reporter: suspect number one who abc news has learned tamerlan tsarnaev, later died from his wounds. >> he was in traumatic arrest with cpr ongoing. we spent 10 minutes, 15 minutes trying to resuscitate this patient. >> reporter: but suspect number two got away, triggering a massive man hunt with residents
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advised to stay inside and not to pick up any strangers as they drove through town. >> we believe this to be a stodorist, we need to get him in >> reporter: now, this one man, this one terrorist, has the entire major arican city completely rattled. ople here have been told stay inside, lock their doors. there is in triefk, all stores were closed. they don't know where he is. they can't say with any certainty when they might find him. more from pierre thomas in washington, armed dangerous, the fbi knows that this is a man prepared to kill and prepared to die as well. >> reporter: yes, that's right, george. the fbi director and the attorney general are briefing the president i believe as we speak and the information they're going to provide is that this suspect has an assault rifle, has various assortment of weapons including bombs, he's prepared to take hostages and he
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is prepared to die in a confrontation. >> it seemed that the brothers were smoked out. >> lost connection, george. >> can you hear me now. i think we lost pierre. let me bring bianna golodryga in. moment ago, you spoke with the father of dzhokhar. >> he was in shocked. he wasn't screaming. we spoke on the phone for 10 minutes, 15 minutes. he didn't expect this to happen. two sons and two daughters, all four living in the u.s., two daughters living in new york. the sons in boston. tam tam tamerlan is a father himself. he has a 3-year-old daughter. all coming from a man who told me he was their father. the 3-year-old daughter's name is zahara. all concern and focus is on this
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younger son. >> he believes his sons were set up but he had a very important for his son on the loose if he's listening right now. >> that's right. he said, give up, give up, you have a bright future ahead of you, come to us, come home to russia. he's also convinced that their sons weren't involved in this. all of this is a huge surprise to him. >> his older had been killed and his response. >> he was in shock, what shocked me was that he had spoken with his sons a few days ago after the apparent bombings went off, he said that his sons weren't there. they said dad, we don't frequent these type of events. >> if his son is killed. >> he said he's devastated. >> thank you, bianna golodryga. the real victims in all of this is the city of boston and
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ecically tof rtown, hunkered down in their homes, businesses closed. our linsey davis is on the street, talk about what the latest is, linsey? >> reporter: yeah, amy, the best way i can describe this is a quiet frenzy, it's surreal. on one hand, it's extremely quiet as far as the residential, the neighbors, they're taking the advisory seriously, they're staying in their homes. at the same time, a very palpable scram frbl police in and out of this 20-block perimeter, a vehicle just leaving right now, we saw initially the parade of a dozen city buses or more, filled with yuan formed officers. since then, we have bomb squads going in and out. a number of ambulances. they're getting the first responders in place in attempt
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to prepare for anything, perhaps to prepare for the worst. it's extremely tens out here. everyone on high alert. >> understandable. linsey davis, thank you for the very latest from watertown, massachusetts. earlier this morning, i spoke to an eyewitness to that firefight this morning. jeff was inside his apartment when it started. we' you were in your apartment when this started to unfold. >> it was loud, rapid-fire of anywhere from a dozen to two dozen shots followedy an enormous large boom which kind of shook the house. >> so you saw them arend the suspect? >> they had him pinned on the ground with maybe six officers right in front of the vehicle, all this kind of unfolded literally 15 feet from our front door. we noticed about an hour, hour and 15 minutes after the
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occurrence that there's a bullet hole through my roommate's -- through his wall right through his calendar and through his computer chair and the slug is actually still laying right in front of his bed at the moment. >> how long did the gunfire last? what period of time are we talking about here? >> you know, it was relatively quick, but it was sustained for at least 90 seconds, perhaps longer, you know, i was woken out of my sleep and it was a consistent, you know, dozen shots right away then there was a loud explosion. >> you seem pretty calm now. that must have been terrifying? >> it was -- it was intense, you know, a lot of the thoughts kind of rushed through your head that kind of incidents of the past week and what we've been hearing in the news and, oh, my god, is this really happening just outside my door. >> jeff, thank you for giving such a clear account of what happened. now, the entire city on lockdown. you see the police presence. josh back in. situation unfolding connecticut.
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>> connecticut police have been contacteosrm be on the lookout for a suspicious vehicle, deskriekd as a grey honda crv, 316-es 9. it's not known, in fact, if the automobile is actually in connecticut or if it is still in massachusetts. again, they're told to be on the lookout and this coming from our pierre thomas, digital billboards will be going up all over the region with the suspect's picture on it. >> all right, josh, thanks so much. as this man hunt gets under way, authorities are zeroing in on who these young men are and were, the 19-year-old known as dzhokhar by his classmates by his father, he's been described
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smart, nice, funny and athletic, and you said this is truly a worst-case scenario. >> it is. because it's the nice young guy who blends with everybody and suddenly commits an act of terror that is indeed a nightmare. he and his brother, the younger one had been in the country more than a decade, it's believed, the older, the last five years, a father with a 3-year-old child, what were they doing? why were they plotting this? and is there anyone else? and that's what everybody else's concerned about. when you look at the crime screen and these two young men, walking through the crowd, on surveillance tape, it doesn't seem particularly sophisticated, because they truly should have known that a lot of pictures would have been taken there, it's the boston marathon, there was a surveillance camera that
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was quite easy to see on the lord and taylor store. >> dzhokhar himself wore his hat backwards. certainly, how they tried to make that escape when the pressure was on, they walk into a 7 eleven and they hold it presumably for some cash. no planning. >> absolutely, crazy stupid move on their part if they were really trying to escape. they also must have all of the weapons that they were going to use with them. because they car jacked that vehicle, it's not like they had them hidden in a house or they had their own vehicle, whatever they had, i assume they were carrying, because they car jacked that vehicle, now, we don't know where the younger man ended up, where he planted cisry of fore or bombs, that's these two youn ori
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the family from chechnya, the younger one born in kyrgyzstan. >> we're getting some new information in from connecticut state police saying that the vehicle that josh just described is occupied possibly by someone who is a suspect. so, we are getting very, very breaking details right now. i want to bring in brad garrett to talk about what may be happening right now in connecticut. brad, you just heard that new information about police are saying. vehicle they're searching may be occupied. >> and it shouldn't surprise anyone that he would predictably car jack someone and keep moving. he did get outside the police perimeter. what you're going to see as the day unfolds, though, as marthaened others pointed out, he may be able to pull this
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bombing off but he's not really a savvy criminal, if you will, and his world is going to continue to narrower and narrower and if the police are lucky to stop that vehicle in some way and i guarantee you, they're going to stop it where they don't have to approach it. but, if he would happen to get away, he's g because, curious, obviously he was able to commune yesterday with his father and his family, assuming they had cell phones, is he capable of communicating with anybody now, if he uses that cell phone, will police be able to zero in on him, do they already know how to find him that way with the pings? >> well, what we don't know is how many cell phones he has, the we don't you can dozen know if he has that.
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yes, if he used the same phone that he talked to his father on, they probably can get up and maybe be up on that phone. it's so easy to buy throwaway phones. >> if they didn't plan ahead to have cash on their hand to escape, they might not have planned to cell phones? >> i think they didn't they would have to escape. when law enforcement figured out different pieces of this puzzle, they panicked and didn't have an alternative plan -- they were so focused on what they were doing, nothing else became important and obviously, it would have been. >> another photo of the suspect coming in right now, it shows him when he was on the wrestling team. i believe, we're going to put that up in just a second. it just came in. they got it up in the control
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room. we're not positive, if indeed this gray honda is occupieoccup. it could suggest as well, aps someone else was involved. >> well, maybe, george, but the idea of a stealing a car or carjacking someone else, is an act of desperation. you have seen him acting in a desperate way since basically the 7-eleven. >> yeah that's true. brad, thanks very much. jon karl at the white house right now. we know we're getting more details about the president's briefing in the situation room. >> george, as you can imagine this has consumed the president, entire intelligence and national security teams. 30 minutes ago, the president and the vice president convened
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a meeting in the situation room of those teams. we had attorney general holder here. fbi director mueller here. homeland security direct janet napolitano. secretary of state john kerry. the entire national security apparatus paying attention here. the concern they're looking for right now is are there connections between these two brothers and international terrorist organizations? they're looking at that and whether or not they were acting essential essentially on their own or did they have supporters here? this is what is consuming the rity tea thite e entire national house. >> coming at the end of an extraordinary week. >> one of the tensest weeks of the obama presidency, you had the bombing in massachusetts, at the boston marathon, and then
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not long after we were trying to grasp that, you had the ricin letters, one addressed to the president of the united states and another one addressed to senator roger wicker on capitol hill. ricin poisonous, that was entirely unconnected. of course, the explosion at the fertilizer plant outside of waco, texas, an extraordinary week. as it's unfolding you don't know if the events are connected or not. a very tense week. by the way, a thoroughly packed week politically. the president's big initiative on gun violence went down on capitol hill. >> let's get to pierre thomas, right now, our chief justice correspondent, we're learning a lot more about the suspects right now, pierre, and one of the points you have been making this morning is the way they handled themselves in the firefight suggests some kind of par military training.
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>> george, let's re-create what we think happened, firefight, they were throwing grenades or explosives out the car. the suspect who was killed, threw a bomb at the police, the h the smoke firing at the police, we're told, before he was killed. law ement cioffials sd with.s what they're dealing they're trying to reconstruct these men's lives. what their travel patterns are, that's critical. the lightning speed with which the fish is trying to get the public support, the release of the video and the photographs last night what prompted. they created the pressure for these men to go underground. they have digital billboards up right now, showing suspect number two on the run. >> okay, coming up, we'll take a
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views on the win us. ith us all morning long. more fro"good inica" and more from abc news. good morning to all of our viewers in the west and this is "good morning america" being seen live. you see there the police swarming the streets in a massive man hunt right now trying to close in on suspect number two. >> and these are the pictures that came out overnight of the suspects. suspect number one, there in the black hat is now dead. police hunting for the man who was in the white hat, there he is, armed and dangerous, on the run, caught on camera at a boston 7-eleven, the suspect now wearing a gray hoodie and releasing a new photo of him this morning so everyone is on the lookout. >> new details right now, you're looking at the picture of is suspect from high school.
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graduate of cambridge high and latin school. his father said that he was a medical student, the entire university is being evacuated right now, umass-dart mouth. the entire city in lockdown. the suburbs of boston in lockdown and our entire abc news team is out in force on this story. we begin with brian ross on the ground, all through the night in watertown, brian, it was such a chaotic and violent night? >> it certainly was, george, it's been 12 hours, now, since law enforcement last had eyes on, on suspect number two, he was on foot, in a gun battle, he was brother was shot, a transit police was shot. he took off, somewhere over there, and since that time, there have been policemen, national guardsmen coming
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through the neighborhood where he might be, with no success. residents have been told to stay in doorses and with their doors locked. there is no traffic on the streets. other than the screaming sirens and police cars and ambulances up and down as they look and go. throughout the area, they have put armed police officers with automatic weapons to ring the news media standing here for our own safety, we were told the governor has been here, they shut down the entire transit system for all of boston, this is a case where there is a belief that there may be other associates, other explosive devices that could be there to harm people. they have just frozen the city. >> brian, thanks very much. we just learned that the suspect's car, honda has been recovered in boston. >> the car has been recovered,
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but we're being told that the suspect has not been intified, the suspect has not been caught. again, this man is still oth moveill a ry dangerous situation, law enforcement offi he's armed to teeth and expected to go down in a firefight. two senioraw enforcement information.if the m.i.t. polico was killed was ambushed? >> pierre, he was ambushed, killed in cold blood, according to what we thought overnight, there's the officer right there, and we honor his service, the man they carjacked, the mercedes suv they let him go? >> you can never understand how these unfold. they told that person they carjacked, they were the boston
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marathon bombers. who knows what their thinking was? one official reminded me that there are photographs of one of the suspects standing near an 8-year-old child before that bomb was detonated and they clearly that the child would be among those killed and they did it anyway. >> you see the suspect the backpack and the little boy. want to turn to suspect number two dzhokhar tsarnaev. you spoke with us earlier and spoke about how he was smart, nice, funny athletic, so many wonderful attributes for someone who has done something so horrible, talk more about the high school student that you knew. >> absolutely shocking. the high school student that i knew and the high school student e cr a doing the apposs beenin
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horriblehings. he a was good student, a ver nice person, it's just absolutely shocking and hour fig for all of us, it seems like a nightmare, it's hard to believe that someone, who was so friendly and funny a couple of years ago could have done these type of things. we're staying strong as a community. the fact it happened under our noses is incredibly shock zblg no warning signs whatsoever. as so many officials are trying to figure out why, and the country trying to figure out why, can you tell us if he was vocal about politics or religion? >> neither. he was a very nice guy. he never mentioned any sort of religion or politics. he was just very, you know, normal, easygoing, funny kind of guy. it seems like something must have happened after we knew him,
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this seems like an absolute 180 switch in a personality, it's absolutely shocking. you know, i wish i could say there were some kind of warning sign that we knew or some way to have foreseen this. there were absolutely none. it's very hard. >> talk about his behavior in high school for those who are joining us now and talk a little bit about, he was a team player, he was on team sports? >> yes. >> hwain honor classes? >> yes. >> give us a sense of whose his frnds were?riends were all very nice guys, he ang out with anyone suspicious, you know, i d one class with him, we had acting class together, and he was always funny and you know, he contributed and never seemed like there were any warning signs, i know in a lot of cases, the person was secluded or away the group, his friends were involved, he was involved. >> he was engaged.
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when you know someone in high school who is that after fabl and that popular, you know your family and siblings. it sounds like he had two sisters and his parents were apparently in the states in boston up until last year when they moved back to russia. was anyone familiar with his family? >> no. i didn't know anyone of his family. from my perspective, all i knew was just him in high school. i hadn't heard anything suspicious about his family. none of us knew anything, really, apart from who he was in high school. >> did he express any strong political feelings in any way? >> no. not at all. not .ll i really, you never, ever, really all he talked about was normal teenaged stuff.
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he never seemed like a person that would be able to do something like this. >> did he ever have a girlfriend? >> yeah. >> who was he close with? >> he was close with, in my high school, a class of 300 graduating students, kids took honor classes together, he kind of floated tweern a bunch of people. like i said before, he was well liked. i didn't know about his girlfriend. he never seemed suspicious at all. >> that's certainly chilling indeed. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. let's bring this information to dan abrams right now. the contrast, tomorrow's anniversary of columbine killers, the secluded loners, completely isolated from
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society. >> you hear people after the fact, i can't believe the person did it, i never thought the person wasapable of this. when you're talking of a maz murderer, the level of premeditation, the fact that this guy was incorporated into this school with friends and playing on teams and wasn't reclusive and wasn't quiet, that does defy what you see in almost all of these cases. yes, we talked about this idea that you can kind of live a double life, but that double life in many of these cases involves staying out of people's live, this guy had an acting class. honor students, that's what make this so incredibly unusual. >> thank you, dan abrams. we'll take a quick break and be right back with the coverage of
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back now with our live coverage all across the country. the situation unfolding in boston right now, a terrifying situation. an armed terrorist is still on the loose after a night of firefights, his suspected accomplice, his brother, suspect number one, killed in a firefight with watertown police earlier this morning. all of boston in lockdown.
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i want to go to byron pitts who is in near the home of suspect number two. buy zblorn we're in east cambridge, 2.8 miles from the finish line where the bombings took place on monday. just a few minutes ago, we saw unmarked vehicles roll into the street, inside were men dressed in camouflage gear, we don't know if they're military or police, that's something different here, prior to that, all we have seen are fbi firms and police in familiar equipment. on the street behind us, authorities believe that the youngest suspect, 19-year-old dzhokhar lived there. in the past few minutes we talked to young men who went high school with him at cambridge high and latin desc pasant young
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had a number of friends, diverse group of friends. this neighborhood at 7:00 this morning, police moved in aggressively, they began evacuating residents on the street, there's a white house where police believe that the 19-year-old lives. they blocked off the street, blocked off the first two blocks. then they went door to door, rifles, evacuating residents telling them to move out. eventually they told those citizens they should go to the police department, where they could stay because they would be there for a while. a young man from this neighborhood who neighbors said that he was a good kid. police are still moving into the house, we believe, we haven't seen -- >> byron, to clarify, when you saw those police going in the vests a short while ago, were they going toward that white house or a different house?
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>> reporter: no. as best we can see from our position, george, they calmly, they didn't rush into the neighborhood, they calmly into the perimeter, lights flashing lines, allowed them to go in. we noticed looking through the car windows, they were dressed in military uniforms. >> okay, byron, thanks very much amy? let's bring an intern for the boston globe, more notably, he is a close friend of the suspect, you see them there in a high school snapshot, zolian, talk about the friend you knew, dzhokhar. >> really, my first action of this is to who he was which was a courtesy young man. i'm very shocked.
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we're back now with live coverage of the terror in boston. want to thank amy robach for her contributions. we have pierrehos, chief arhroughts respondent, police there in boston, pierre,ass ive police presence. a gray honda believed to hav been driven by the suspect at some point was also apprehended. >> the car has been found. the suspect at that point had not been located by authorities. we're checking some reports that the suspect may be in the police sight. george? >> they have been closing the noose tighter all morning long. this has been massive manhunt, an entire city on lockdown, law enforcement officials believe that this man was prepared for a violent confrontation. >> pierre, tell us about what they found inside that house we
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saw police entering? >> we're still trying to get information about that. i can tell you what they found at the scene the confrontation with police, they found a pressure cooker bomb. they found all kinds of unexploded bombs and also, that confrontation told them about the mentality going forward, the suspect they killed, you know, tossed a bomb at law enforcement, smoke came everywhere, he was walking through the smoke, walking through law enforcement and firing at them. suspect number two, the suspect with the white cap got away and is leading the police on this massive chase all morning long. >> i want to go to abc's martha raddatz right now. we're learning all through the morning, martha, more and more about the background of these two suspects. these young men. one born in ky, rgyzstan,
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chechnya origins. >> george, they're looking for any connection and they have been looking for days for any sort of international connection even before they knew who the bombers were, who these suspects were, they are now coming through anything they possibly can, whether it's the internet, inspiration from somewhere overseas, they still don't know, they may have been operating on their own, radicalized on their own and had no help from overseas. we do not know that. one indication that pierre vee pamilitaryraining.eemed to they knew what they were doing this morning in that gun battle and knew how to handle those weapons and bombs. that may be from the internet. you can find out how to make a bomb on the internet, how to use a weapon on the internet and you can certainly get a weapon. most of all, how in the world
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did this happen? those descriptions of that young man that he's just a nice guy, that he's a cool guy, that he's a funny guy that just does not track with the terrorists. and yet, he shut down his entire city, i'm thinking back to the sniper, george, in washington, d.c.n 2002, boy, we didn't shut down the city, we went on and that sniper was picking people off and yet the message was, just go on with your life as normal, don't let them terrorized, a whole lot different in boston today. >> yes, and he's confounding the profilers of terrorism in this country. honors student. bright future. want to bring in richard clarke right now. he's an abc news consultant. you have been in so many tension situations like this. what are you seeing? >> a great deal of academic reer
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is inch the radicalization process, how does someone go from being the nice kid to being a radical? what we learned it can happen very, very quickly and it can happen as martha said, without any contact with anyone else. it happens in arab countries and also the united states. they can get online and they can be radicalized by the videos they see on jihadist websites. they can learn how to make bombs online. they're trying to put together of the history of the lives of these two young men, the last several years, who did they know? who did they contact? what were their internet connections, their cell phones connections? where did they travel? to find out who else -- >> richard, excuse me, we got brian ross on the phone right now. he's got some new information, brian.
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brian? >> reporter: the information is they feel they're getting closer. we're here about to briefed again by the senior law enforcement officials from the state of massachusetts who are running the case now. not the fbi. but the locals and they're telling us, they're going to have a briefing shortly, it got pushed back about ten minutes ago, we expect in ability, i say, ten minutes some news. >> thiey think they're closing in? >> reporter: yes. >> we want to talk about law enforcement in all of this. as we watch the unfolding, tense scene, what they have been doing so far is truly extraordinary. >> and at least one officer last night sacrificed his life. another in critical condition. bianna golodryga is here, she speaks russian and spoke to the father of dzhokhar. >> i spoke with ten minutes. i have to tell you, the person he's describing and the alleged suspect that we're seeing right now the barricades right now, it
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seems to be two different people. he describes his son dzhokhar, as loving, peaceful. he was planning on going back to school break to russia for the first time since they immigrated to the united states. had not been there since. this was going to be his first time to return. he's convinced right now the father, he's probably in an emotional state right now, when i told his son is under lockdown. he said if they kill my son, all hell will break loose. that might be a father's emotion. if dzhokhar is killed, he believes that it's inside job. that he is being -- >> a couple of other important points from the father, he wanted to get a message to his son. >> he wanted to get a message, he wanted him to walk away, surrender and come back to russia. i don't know how delusional he's being right now.
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his son has never once touched a weapon. they're very peaceful. no training, no affiliation with terror groups. i also asked him if russian authorities have been in touch with him, he said that he hadn't spoken with anyone this morning. >> a word or phrase that he used in russia that stuck with you. >> he could not say enougons both are. >> incredibly, he spoken to both of his sons since the boston marathon. >> he spoke with them that monday after the bombings and asked them if they were okay, if they were there. he said they were not there. he h. >> reminding everyone, how many family members? >> there are two daughters in this country. they're 22 and 24-year-old old. he gave me dzhokhar's phone number. that line is busy if in fact that's his number.
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>> incredible. bianna, thanks very much. martha, right now, in washington, our chief global affairs correspondent, the young man was born in kyrgyzstan, his father back in russia right now. chechnya, places where there had been terrorist cells but directed toward the russian leaders. >> they don't have terrorism that goes outside of there. they kept their eyes on chechens there. they're going after the russians. again, we don't know whether that background has anything to do with their motivation, we don't know whether they were trained there, we don't know how often they went back and forth. i assume they did since the parents lived there now, but we do not know any connection so far, that's what they're urgently trying to find out.
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one thing that's pretty obvious, they would love to take this young man alive, they would want to know his motivation, they would want to know what if any international connection there is. this is something that the whole of government is working on right now, intelligence officials. this government is trying to find out whether there is any connection to international terrorism and what kind. >> again, you pointed out wisely that of course, it is a region, a crossroads of discontent in that region, we can't leap to any conclusions. >> coming up on 8:00 on the west coast. 11:00 on the east coast. let's tell everyone what we know. a night of violence and chaos. that young man right there, dzhokhar tsarnaev, from cambridge, massachusetts, is still at large a fugitive. believed to be arnold and
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dangerous. his brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, died in a gunfight earlier this morning, in watertown, the entire city of boston, 625,000 on lockdown. there's the firefight that took place in watertown, massachusetts, shortly after midnight, eyewitnesses said they came face to face two men with police, the young man walked calmly into the gunfire, clearly prepared to die. that's the suspect currently on the loose. that's surveillance photo taken from the 7-eleven. that's the home in cambridge, massachusetts, of the fugitive. police have surrounded the entire area. they're out in force everywhere. we want to go to pierre thomas. more information coming in by the minute. >> reporter: the fbi and law enforcement officials say they're still hunting with the young man, we may be getting some additional information as brian ross reported. law enforcement officials have
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emphasized that this is probably the most tense situation they can recall in recent memory where the suspect is prepared to be confronted by law enforcement. you see an entire city, region, shut down. they don't want law enforcement doesn't want people out on the streets. also, as martha raddatz reported earlier, they're trying to find out everything they can about the young man's background and to make sure they don't have any associates. it's a very fluid situation. i just got off the phone with a senior fbi official saying they're waiting a an update. >> one of the chilling details police have told everyone in this lockdown situation not to come to the door, do not open the door unless you recognize the person standing there. want to go to byron pitts, he's there standing out on the street, what have you learned? >> reporter: i'm not sure we
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have contact with byron. >> diane, i'm sorry. were you talking to me? >> i can hear you. >> bring us to date. >> sure, diane, we're in east cambridge, 2.8 miles from the bomb blast site at the end of the finish line of the boston marathon. three minutes, four minutes, things picked up here a bit as law enforcement brought in more resources, bomb equipment, bomb vehicles, 15, 20 minutes ago, we saw men in unmarked vehicles and in camouflage uniforms with kef lar helmetsing things began to pick up 7:00 this morning when police moved to evacuate the neighborhood here in east cambridge. authorities believe that the
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young suspect the 19-year-old lived in a white house on norfolk street, in a working-class neighborhood. we talked to a number of young people, 19, 20-year-olds who said they were classmate of his, a very popular high school in the area where people were, parents were proud to send their children because it was considered one of the top high schools in this area. they didn't describe the young man as a terrorist, they described the young man as a pleasant person to be around. he never talked about politics or religion. they made the point they lost contact with him since he went off to college. we spoke to another man that he believes that he saw him walking down the street over the weekend. police have expanded the area that they're controlling over
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the past few areas, initially it was concentrated to where the suspect lived. now, it's expanded three, four blocks in east cambridge. we're waiting for updates. the police, the biggest change in the past few minutes when the bomb squad moved in position to do what we don't know. >> byron, thanks very much. they been out in force in watertown all night long, linsey davis is there. a tense situation, linsey, everyone on a hair trigger. apparently, we have no audio from linsey right now. let's go back to pierre thomas, chief justice correspondent. one of the points that you have been making all morning long, these people seemed to have
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training in the way they were engaging with police in that firefight and young men who were willing to die as well. >> that's right, george. this is what law enforcement officials are surmising based on the tactics and actions that took place this morning, all of this will be sorted out as we go forward. the information that we were sending out the police as they were potentially preparing to deal with this young man still on the run. they wanted law enforcement to know that this young man is prepared to fight to the finish and fight to die. law enforcement officials that's the operating assumption, that's why they took these extraordinary steps. steps that we haven't seen since 9/11. we had the sniper attacks, they never shut down a region like they did in boston. they had the information had an assault rifle and more weapons including bombs. they wanted to be prepared, they
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want the citizenry to know what they were dealing with and law enforcement to precede with extreme caution. >> firms know that he's prepared to die, they would far prefer to take him alive if at all possible? how do they go about doing that? special techniques they do to increase the odds to take him alive? >> they're not going to get close to him. they may try to communicate with him, they're not going to put anyone else at risk, they believe they know what his intentions are. there's a point where law enforcement makes a decision, they're going to take the life of the suspect rather take another life. >> we have larry anderson on the phone, a neighbor who has never dzhokhar tsarnaev for two to three years. can you hear him?
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>> tell me how you knew him and tell me what you saw when you were with him? >> i'm a retiered teacher from cambridge rindge and latin. i photographed all kinds of events, including wrestling which dzhokhar was on the wrestling team. i got to know him through that. i know him to be nothing -- this is so out of character from anything i know about this young man. he couldn't have been more forthcoming, he couldn't have been more gracious, i learned a year or so ago, he was from chechnya, i said were you there when all of the bombings going on? he said i don't remember, i was so young. he was so appreciative of being
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a part of the school culture. he was compassionate. a sweetheart of a kid. he always friendly, no talk of politics or any kind of way that would sut, you know, disconnect or he's like -- not involved. he was very engaged with everyone. everyone, he was very well liked. not a hint of this. this morning, around 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, when the pictures became clearer and clearer on television, and on the internet, i said, my god, thatdzhokhar. it can't possibly be. people said, why didn't call police and someone, i'm not sending police lovely kid and have him hound him down. it's so out of character. i can't begin to say it how many
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ways. >> we're hearing how stunned everyone is. tell me how recently you had conversations with? >> i don't know, two, three months ago, not even, i said, dzhokhar, he was coming out of his house, i was walking up the street, it was in the evening and i said, i keep forgetting you live here, we should get together, he said yes, he was off to school, i said are you wrestling? he said no, i'm not wrestling. and he told me where he was. i can't remember where he told me he was at school. i said, let's get together, we're neighbors. no way in the world, i just heard the background of this, he's armed, he has guns, he's throwing grenade and larry, let me ask you about that, i know that this seems so unbelievable, any experience with weapons of any kind?
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ever gone to a shooting range? >> i have no knowledge about any of that. i have no knowledge of any of that. he was so not like that as i knew him. there was nothing -- nothing in his background -- nothing in his behavior, he was never in trouble. he was never -- he was a great athlete, he was a great sportsman, he was a team player. >> did he tell you anything specific about his plans of the future whether it was to go back overseas? >> he did. but i can't remember what he told me. typical of a kid that he would be interested in. it wasn't anything that took interest in. i'm in touch of former students, i can't keep it all straight in my head. the thing is, it's just beyond
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unbelievable. it's beyond -- i can't put words to you to describe how unexpected this is. >> larry, we hear it in your voice and we thank you so much for phoning in. just to fill in, this mosaic that we're putting together of this young man a scholarship student, honors student, courteous, religious and peaceful. he said that he's so grateful to be in america. >> just astonishing. . only tiny hint that he expressed some discomfort of the wars in iraq and afghanistan were stupid, from a class mate. i think we re-established connection with linsey davis, in watertown, massachusetts, on high alert in the last 12 hours. still a very tense situation,
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linsey? >> reporter: yeah, george, this is obviously a city on lockdown with the schools, universities, subways, buses and taxi service suspended. nowhere is it more event along this 20-block perimeter, we're a half mile away from where that shootout took place overnight, the big headline for us here is this location, we just saw for the first time u.s. marchals go into this perimeter. bomb squads, canine units. the u.s. marshals is significant, because they are the ones that would transport a suspect. it continues to be this kind of quiet frenzy here. you have the flurry of police activity, the helicopter overhead. we continue to hear sirens in the distance, that little siren, we have lots of sirens on a much
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larger scale as well. then n contrast of that, you have the residents who by and large are listening to the advisories of sheltering in place, they're standing in their homes, within the last 30 minutes or so, a combination of are starting to come out on the streets. primarily, there's servicing members of the media and the strong police presence that's here. diane? >> you're talking about watertown, newton, boston, this huge area, all in the aggregate, a couple of new notes. amtrak between providence and boston has been suspended indefinitely, that the train service in boston suspended indefinitely and secretary of state john kerry is quoted as saying we're part of the way there to bringing the suspects
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here. >> let's go to richard clarke right now, who's also with us, former counterterrorism advise rer to presidents clinton and bush. from everything we're leshg now, richard, over the last several hours about this operation and the young men and about what the suspect may be preparing to do right now, where does this fit in, where does this rank in the kind of terrorism threats we have been preparing for? >> george, we have never had anything like this where an entire city has been put to lockdown, we have seen college campuses on lockdown, not a million people, this is similar in a way to the washington sniper incident that we had over ten years ago, the kind of thing that the government officials had been worried about before 9/11 that a few people, one or two people, with the right weapons could put a whole met metropolitan area into fear, it doesn't take much to put a whole
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metropolitan area into lockdown and they achieved the terrorists, achieved what they wanted to achieve that way. to get attention to them. >> jonathan karl is with us as well, what are you hear right now, new details coming out? >> the president has just wrapped up his briefing with his top national security team, unlike earlier this week, this is all hands on deck, including the secretary of state john kerry who is traveling, via joining teleconference and the cia director, john kerry just held a press conference, he said that i think it's fair to say we have been in a pretty direct confrontation we vil. right now, diane, the big thing for the nation gnatal security, trying to establish any international connections there
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are. again, the big question, is there anybody else out there? >> let's take that question to richard clarke, from everything we have seen, is this something where they had a lot of outside help or would require outside help? >> it wouldn't require outside help, it may be a case, we certainly don't know, this is speculation and we label it as such, it could be the case that they were remotely inspired by someone like the awlaki killed by the u.s. earlier, he was reaching out to people in the united states via the internet, individuals, radicalizing them and urging them into a. chechens don't show up on the radar. historically chechens involved in al qaeda almost from the
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first days. and the early 1990s. so, it's possible that some how these two young men were radicalized remotely or on the internet and given references, go online and learn how to make a bomb using this video tape, that sort of thing, but, as jonathan said, what the government is doing right now is looking at all of their travel records, phone records, intempbt records, to see if they were in contact with anyone else. >> okay, dick, i want to go back to martha, of course, you traveled to all of these regions and anything you want to add what dick was just saying? >> one thing that struck me, the only thing that this young man had ever talked about was his discomfort with the wars in afghanistan and iraq, that would be the majority of americans as
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well. even that doesn't tell you anhing. g around these regions, one thing that i noticed in yemen, pakistan, the groups are splintered now, they're just totally splintered. it's hard to follow, hard to see who's doing what, so many variations. they don't want to call it al qaeda in some ways anymore, because people are just taking that name to have their own cause, in yemen, again, where i traveled numerous times, that's where anwar awlaki was, the american cleric killed by the u.s. he tried to inspire people all the time. he had a magazine called inspire, trying to tell muslims it was their job to kill americans. that's why awlaki was considered such a threat, because they indeed think he was an inspiration to many people. again, we have no idea what
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happened to these two young men, they're trying to find out so urgently right now. i have never seen a description of a suspect, a description of someone who xward out such a horrific act, uniformly across the board, everyone saying that he was a wonderful guy. >> scanning the horizon for clues. we have been hearing this morning about dzhokhar tsarnaev but his brother tamerlan tsarnaev has been less of a focus. i want to bring in the boxing coach of the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, who was killed in that firefight. mr. kiernan, can you hear us? >> yes, i can. >> tell us about his brother, have you been hearing the reports that these people were courteous, young men? >> what i thought about this
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young man, i would have said that he was a fine, young man, very good athlete, very courteous, quiet, and, just a nice guy. i'm shocked beyond belief that he was involved in this. >> how recently did you talk to him and did talk to you about his family, he was married with a 3-year-old daughter? >> i haven't had any contact with him since 2010, to at that time, he was telling me that he was going to beó[ getting marr and that he was considering
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if. >> any hints of it. the fact that people have been talking about traveling, et cetera, all of the friends are saying, didn't leave school, didn't go anywhere, yes, people can get radicalized on the internet the notion a month ago, he's talking about going to a friends' house to watch the super bowl, the sort of thing that he's thinking about, he wanted to come over and the sort of mundane activities, yet that seems kind of normal, but the fact that no one around him, we'll have to speak to more people, closer to him, who did see some changes in the months before, so far what we're hearing is, nothing. didn't see anything. >> again the question is there. no one has answer to this question, was there anyone else involved or in contact with him? >> from the law enforcement
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perspective, that's the question. from a public safety perspective, yes, he's a real concern and want to find him. they also need to make sure that there's not someone else out there that's a part of this. that's why law enforcement is not only trying to catch this guy, they're trying to put the pieces together to figure out what happened here to protect the public at large. we want to go to sierra, high school class mate of dzhokhar, you were the first to tell us, to give us some background on dzhokhar, we have been hearing the same story all morning long, no indication at all that this would be a young man capable of this? >> i think zolan who you spoke to earlier and larry aaronson, he was a friend to people, a very kind person, we're all in shock and absolutely at a loss
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for words about what could have happened. you know, this totally blindsided us this morning. every is tight-knit. very proud of our school. it's an utter shock. >> since the photos were released last night, i remember saying you immediately know that it was him. you had been in contact with each other, reconnecting, and in all of those conversations that you have had with your friends and other people who knew him, nothing else had come out? >> nobody that i have heard from, that anyone has talked to, has been able to think about anything that could have hinted at this kind of behavior, i know that zolan was saying earlier, he was in contact with him in february. it seemed to come out of blue, we can't think of anything that could have hinted at this
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behavior. he was a very nice person in high school, so we're at a loss for words. >> again, tell us about him as a student, he was a honors student. >> a great student, he was an athlete, he was a friend to many. i had an acting class with him. he participated, shared laughs, it's very bizarre. something, i mean, whatever occurred this happened, must have been recent, any memory of him in high school doesn't add up to the behavior and tragedy that happened over the past couple of days. >> thank you. i want to go to brian ross, he said earlier that we might have a briefing on something from law enforcement. brian? >> the latest is, the briefing has been postponed because of some police activity just down the road here, we're told they have someone in custody, it's
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not suspect number two and it's not a suspect connected with the two brothers, we're giving some updated information and some of the details of what happened last night, the honda cr-v that you were talking with pierre about, that was in their custody, they used that when they went to the 7-eleven to hold it up and departed there in the honda and used the honda the car they car jacked and took off with both cars, the honda and the mercedes suv and consolidated whatever they had into the mercedes suv which began the wild ride between cambridge and watertown where they were throwing explosives out the back at police cars that were pursuing them and opening fire with weapons. we're getting more and more details about how it all went down. they apparently had the honda in
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the cr-v. in any case, that honda cr-v has been located in massachusetts. >> but to go back to what you said at the very beginning, a tentative report, a very early report, they may have someone in custody who is not connected, related, at this point? >> right. apparently not. they may have stumbled on someone else. tell you what the spokesman just told us, the briefing has been delayed because just down the road here, towards the area where they're looking for suspect number two, they have taken somebody into custody, a helicopter has been hovering over that particular spot and we thought that it was either suspect two or nor anyone
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connected to them. not sure why that is. under the current rules, no one is supposed to be outside, it's a curfew effect. people are on lockon essentially. as we get more details we'll certainly pass them on as we get a fuller picture of the last few hours of suspect number two. >> more information is coming in right now to pierre thomas in washington. pierre? >> george, we're getting more and more information that police are closing in, getting closer to the suspect. i'm hoping to get an update very, very soon on that. law enforcement officials, this is not over yet. but law enforcement officials are becomie ining increasingly confident they're going to find this suspect and bring him to jgs. >> they're not letting you know there's other people out there? it's not over in terms of
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gathering information? >> they're increasingly confident that they're going to get the suspect. in terms of other potential associates that's still very much an active investigation. they need to rule that out. before they put that back to a normal situation, but until this situation is resolved, they are going to keep that city on lockdown. >> pierre, richard clarke, just to underscore, you don't have any other information on this person who's been brought to custody behind brian? >> no, i do not. >> richard, now as the law enforcement officials start to close in on the suspect, anything they can do to enhance the chance to be taken alive? >> if we have his cell phone number -- >> bianna called it. >> if that's his cell phone and
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he has it and it's on, they know in genoa neighborhood he's in, they'll be able to narrow it down to a cell phone tower. if they can get him to answer the phone, they'll take a hostage negotiator to talk him down. all of that is standard procedure if they can get him to answer the phone. >> bianna called it a while back. >> constant busy signal. clearly the phone is not in service right now. the father couldn't get over how shocked by what he's seeing on tv. he's convinced that police are using excessive force. when i told them they're armed and dangerous. he said that none of this makes sense to him. the father spent ten years in the u.s. working in auto
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industry, he said that he's in ill health that's why he moved back to russia. he was in communication with his sons over the past few days, they spoke to their father on monday, he said they assured them they're fine. i asked him, you realize that we have found a photo of your younger son standing just feet away from an 8-year-old boy who blew up to that tragedy? he said that his heart goes out to that family. >> repeat for everyone, when he talked to them recently, what was the conversation? >> no sense of urgency, a typical conversation that he had with him, his younger son was expected to travel to russia in the coming days for vacation,
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his first time back in that country since being a young boy, as we heard from their friends, they're confirming that as well. >> if by any chance his son can hear him, he has a message. >> he said, give up, end peacefully and come back to russia. he still doesn't grasp that his son may be armed and ammunition may be armed, he thinks his son is just afraid. >> as we try to put together the portrait of two young men we did hear from the boxing coach of the older brother, the older brother was the outgoing one and the younger brother who's still the loose, was very quiet and introverted compared to his older brother. i want to go back to martha raddatz. >> you know what, bianna just said about the young man going on vacation to the region and hadn't been there since he was a
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young boy, that tells you, there probably wasn't a lot of travel going between those two count countries. that's something they have been looking in. >> i think bianna's information is really important. what they had been looking for, did they go back to chechnya? did they go back to kyrgyzstan? you have to look at the possibility they weren't trained overseas, they could have done the training over the internet. i was going to say i have been in touch with the region who are lock in their houses, this particular friend said that he just took a drive-around, a total ghost town in my neighborhood, no people visible. everything is locked off. it's absolutely surreal.
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it's like the wild west. >> live pictures from watertown right now. we just lost the photo there. martha, let me ask you another question, we may be able to report anything like this, yet, if these young men had traveled back to chechnya or russia in recent years, authorities would know that by now, correct? >> they would know that. at least they're scrambling to find that out. i think they would be pretty easy information to get away, they could check their passports. they were in america, in boston, for 10, 12 years the younger man and five years for the older brother. that's something else that the people i have talked to and saying, the older brother, if anything -- he's the one they'll want to look at to see what happened. is he the one who helped radicalize his younger brother? you heard so many people talking
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about the younger brother, he seems so normal, such a regular kid, such an americanized kid. but the older kid we know less about. but, i do think they'll focus on him a lot. >> thank you, martha. let's go back to dick clarke right now. instructions on how to build a pressure cooker bomb, don't you have to practice, wouldn't there been some activity, gotten some glimpse? >> you have to practice, agents have been going around the greater boston area, investigating reports of cherry bombs and firecrackers, there was a report down in hanover o,
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on the south shore they investigated. they're probably going to gun rangers, in massachusetts, it's illegal to own an assault rifle. the number of places that you can train nearby, aren't that great, but perhaps you can go to new hampshire, outside of the state to some of these camps where you can get regular training, not terrorist camps, just sort of adventure camps. george, the other thing to bear in mind the russian intelligence agencies are all over chechnya, all over the communications going in and out, and all of -- always monitoring chechnya terrorist groups. right now, i can bet that the united states is on the phone to the fsb, the russian intelligence agency trying to find out what they know, did these people communicate with chechnya, the russians will
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probably know. >> well, now, we're going to take a moment, dick, and pause with you, because we have been hearing the portrait from the father, bianna's been on the phone. we have heard directly from the uncle who has lived in maryland, he has given a press conference. >> family associated. i want to start and i will finish with that. first, the only purpose here is just to deliver our condolences and to share grief with the real victims here, those who have been murdered, those who have been injured, this boy, this chinese girl, this young 29-year-old girl, i have been following this, i have been following from day one, never, ever would imagine that somehow,
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children of my brother would be associated with that. so, it is a tragedy. shocked. again, i don't know, this family does not know how to share that grief with the real victims. that's pretty much. >> when was the last time you saw them? >> we haven't been in touch with that family for a number of years -- pardon me. they never lived here. they never lived here. >> when was the last time you saw them? >> the last time i saw them was in 2006. i'm sorry, december 2005. >> did you ever know them to have any ill will to the united states? >> no, i never knew. even if i had a guess or
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something. >> what do you think provoked this? >> hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. anything else -- anything else, religion, with islam, it's a fraud or a fake. >> did they have any military training at all? >> no. again, i have seen them when they were kids. i don't know. we saw them last in 2005. we're chechnyas. we're ethnic chechens. if that happened, most likely, someone radicalized them.
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my brother who just moved back to russia. spent a lifetime fixing cars, he didn't have time or chance, he's been working. >> can you move closer to the mike? >> no, no, no. i have not been in touith my brother, i don't know anything about that. again -- my family, it has nothing to do with that family. pardon me? >> are you ashamed by what unfolded? >> yes, we're ashamed. they're children of my brother. who had little influence over them. it's a personal, it's a personal -- >> lot of emotion right there from the uncle of the young men,
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suspects of the boston marathon bombing. abc's david kerley was at that press conference. >> reporter: george, it was almost bordering on angry. he's very, very angry that his nephews are implicated and suspects in this. he talked at the end of that news conference, he was asked about what he thinks about america, he spoke very glowingly and proud about being in america. i didn't hear whether he talked about the whole thing, the father of the two suspects, who apparently is back in russia, he said that his brother had fixed cars for years. you heard that term losers in referring to his two nephews. he was talking generally, anyone would do something like this were losers and as you probably heard, he believes that somehow they self-radicalized. he was asked whether, they brought shame not just on the
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family name but ethnic chechens as well. he was asked whether they might have been in a chechen separatist movement, he said neither had been to chechnya. he was very impassioned. he was really distraught that his family is now apparently involved. >> he called it an atrocity, he went out of his way, anyone who talks about their religion in connection with this is a fraud. it has nothing to do with their religion? >> reporter: yes, he's a muslim, a proud muslim, his point is, people who carry out things in the name of islam in this violent way is a completely fraud, it has nothing to do with his religion and he was very passionate about that as well. >> thank you, david. torii martinez wrestled with dzhokhar in high school, what
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can you tell us about dzhokhar and when was the last time that you saw him? >> not too much to say about him. i did see him on a daily basis. i mean, you're going to hear it from me and everyone else, i mean, he was actually a pretty good kid. nothing that stuck out about him that would have been a concern to me or anyone nelgs the community. >> one of the things, he was a pretty good wrestler? >> can you repeat that? >> he was a pretty good wrestler? >> yes, he's a pretty smart kid.
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he got a scholarship from the city. i mean, when you talk about him and talk about, you know, how smart he was and what a good athlete he was, he's the last person you would think to do something like that. >> thanks very much. people, think it's unlikely and impossible that it could have been him. let's go back to martha raddatz, that the older brother may be very important in this investigation, what did you learn? >> diane, i want to read some captions to you, these captions were on some photographs of the older brother tamerlan on the web. we have gotten permission to read the captions. wrestling photos. it said tamerlan practicing boxing, originally from chechnya, living in the united states for five years, tamerlan
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sa said, i don't have a single american friend, i don't understand them, he said, if he wins enough fights there, tamerlan said that he could be selected for the u.s. team. tamerlan fled chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early '90s. tamerlan said that he doesn't usually take his shirt off and in this particular shirt he has his shirt off, so girls don't get bad ideas i'm very religious, tamerlan said that he doesn't drink or smoke anymore, god said no alcohol, a muslim said, there are no values anymore and worries that people can't control themselves and the last one, tamerlan said that his girlfriend is half portuguese, converted to islam.
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these, again, are captions of a series of photographs, we have permission to read these captions. . photographer put those captions on those photographs after he did a photo session with tamer lan at this place where he was working out. all of these others, he also with a young woman in several of the shots when he was talking about his girlfriend. >> not a single american friend? >> yeah, that's the one that caught my eye for sure. and the fact that he says, there are no values anymore and worries that people can't control themselves. >> again, do we know when this was posted, martha? >> it actually, you can do a simple search and find these photographs. i'm not sure what year they were, i know that he's married. i doubt he's talking about at girlfriend. he's married with a 3-year-old
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child. my suspicion is several years ago. >> richard clarke, that's the first sign that we have seen in all of these people with have spoken with, the first sign that we have seen of any kind of discontent with the united states? >> well, two things that martha just read. one, that he's very religiously and number two, he's feeling isolatesed from other americans. while he's lived here and gone to school, he hasn't put down roots, those two elements are part of the normal psychological profile of someone who does get radicalized. >> we know that he's the older brother. on the other hand, this is not a loner, he's gotten married and has a 3-year-old child as well. this didn't begin as a suicide
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operation. >> clearly, it's not a suicide. the fact that he's married and has children, that reese not unusual either. we have seen that with a number of people both in the united states and the united kingdom who have become radicalized and have gone on terrorist attacks and who have tried to, they frequently have families. >> another note from the uncle, we heard earlier, dick, he was speaking about his nephews, alvi tsarni, saying to turn themselvyourself in. >> we heard from the uncle there of the young men, these young men hadn't been to chechnya, at least the younger fugitive hadn't been to chechnya, not a lot of ed built up in recent years that chechens were
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targeting the united states? >> apparently, we just lost professor swift. let me bring that back to martha raddatz, you have been following this as well, martha. chechens had directed their anger to the russian government. no active cells coming from chechnya to the united states or targeting the united states? >> i don't think we had any information about that they were targeting the united states. it seemed to be contained there. as richard clarke said earlier, there were some chechens involved in al qaeda. certainly, honestly, in my travels, i run into chechens all the time and travels to iraq, travels to afghanistan, travels to yemen, all of those places, they talk about chechens being involved in things in those places. i don't know that for sure.
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>> martha, so much of the focus in recent months had been on al qaeda in yemen, al qaeda in north africa, not out of the former soviet union, not out of pakistan or afghanistan? >> no, there hasn't been. as you both know it's splintered. al qaeda has splintered. they believed they have decimated the core of al qaeda. one of the things i have sat through several briefings and when they talk about who the enemy is, they'll say to you, look, we don't know what to call them anymore, sometimes they call themselves al qaeda and they're not really al qaeda, they're just taking that as a name because they think that has significance. al qaeda isn't anymore. lot of these groups are splintered. lot of self-radicalized people and groups. >> martha, i want to remind how
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many people have been told not to approach their doors unless they recognize a person outside their homes. the trains have been shut down the university of massachusetts at dartmouth in massachusetts, that campus was evacuated, the suspect had lived there in a dorm, had attended that school, so the cascading effect of this all around the boston is evident. >> we're getting more and more officials may be closing in on the suspect. want to go back to abc's brian ross on the ground in watertown, has anything changed there since the heightened activity a short while ago? >> george, we're standing by here in watertown, for another briefing, we expect the governor to return along with the mayor of boston and we'll ask him to explain what led the mayor of
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boston to approve the plan to put the entire city on lockdown, lock your doors and stay inside, concern not only about suspect number two, whether there were other devices somewhere in the city of boston and other associates, that's the key thing that we're hearing now and meanwhile, as pierre has been reporting, there is a sense that they're getting closer, much closer, so, i think they're going to be developments, and the result is, we have had -- because they're pending, the briefing has been pushed back. >> you reported a short while ago, someone else in custody not far from you. >> you know what, it just broke up, george. >> you reported just a little while, someone else in custody not too far from you? >> the person in custody we're breach the perimeter for reasons they don't unde.rs and they detained him.
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but they say he's not connected to a suspect number two in any way. >> okay, brian. >> it's an eerie scene there to see. >> jon car at the white house, more and more activity at the white house, the president has been briefed through the evening. >> that's right. the president had been briefed throughout the evening on the latest developments here by his counterterrorism adviser lisa monica koe and we have seen the cia director arrive here at the white house and secretary of state john kerry, both of them were on hand with the briefing the president got this morning. all attention at the white house focused on this and trying to see what connections there are if any between these two individuals and these brothers. and anything internationaintern.
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that's the big concern. >> another question, jon people have been asking, disaffection, did they have financial difficulties? >> i asked their father, he said there were no financial woes. the younger brother was receiving financial aid for school. >> okay, let's try to go back to the scene as well, as we look at those aerial shots of boston right now. byron pitts has been in cambridge, massachusetts, near the home of dzhokhar, lot of police activity earlier there in the morning, fairly heavily armed police, what's the latest, byron?
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>> reporte >> apparently, we don't have pie ron pitts. you can see from that shot right there, diane, a ghost town, right now, there's no movement. there the streets. linsey davis has been through the night. i believe we have a connection with linsey right now. you're in watertown. >> reporter: okay, they're coming. okay, camera on us. >> linsey? any more activity. >> reporter: one of the biggest changes to report, there's been a mass exodus of people living here, state police cars, by the dozen have been exiting here, that's not to say that there's no police presence, they remain down on the ground, there are helicopters above, what was interesting to note of those squad cars, one of them an armed truck in full of members of national guard, they left without much urgency, they left as if it was just another day, we know that is more than just
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another day. kind of mundane, regular evidence that life was kind of continuing on, this dunkin' donuts was still open, there was a manager at the front door that was monitoring people going in and out. that dunkin' donuts has closed. high alert the businesses outside of the perimeter has chosen to close down. police had wanted business owners to keep their businesses closed. that dunkin' donuts. that helicopter remains circling overhead. neighbors are starting to come out of their houses. even though they were told to stay inside their homes. the people in this area, they got those automated calls at 2:50 this morning. perhaps it's their curiosity bringing them back on the streets.
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people were here 3:00 this morning. and people reporting power outages in different areas of the city. approach noon here on the east coast, this is an abc news special report. here are the details, the entire city of boston is shut down right now. subways and buses not running. everyone has been told to stay inside as police are on this massive manhunt for the second suspect in this boston bombing. >> police called into action and in other news the uncle of the suspects, a press conference just minutes ago, telling them to turn yourself in, calling what his nephews are accused of an atrocity. let's go to brian ross on

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